The wolf also features cva s qrbp quickrelease breech plug the only truly toolfree removal breech plug on the market today. For years, i shot a black powder revolver with greased. Within typical woods ranges,the accuracy is good enoughwith patched ball under most conditions and the option of using shot puts it in a class all its own. Loading the plr or muzzleloader with a patched round ball. That rifling twist is too slow to stabilize conical bullets, but its just about perfect for a patched round ball.
A patched round ball needs a slower twist along the lines of i in 60 to 70. However, while it is indeed an excellent break action muzzleloader for those who are new to the muzzleloader world, its still a very capable muzzleloader and is not limited to new hunters and will work perfectly for the vast majority of muzzleloader hunters. The wolf is our most affordable breakaction muzzleloader, but its still packed with features that only cva can offer at its price and this year its available with a nitride treated stainless steel barrel. The wolf is cvas entry level muzzleloader below the cva optima v2 and accura v2. Precision shooting patches for round ball precision shooting patches. My understanding of the reason why patched round balls typically do not. Cva wolf discussion in black powder shooting muzzleloaders handguns started by rossh, nov 4, 2017. Like i said in my above post, you can shoot round balls out of the wolf with mild loads, no problem. Another factor which clearly says this is a round ball rifle is the 1in48 twist rate of the rifling. No longer have the muzzleloader and was going to throw them in the melter, but was wondering what hardness they typically are and if they would work for casting boolits. You can find a variety of cva hunter scope mounts and accessories to use with your firearm. I have been successful with 120 grs ffg and a patched ball in a cva mountain rifle because it had a 166 twist and would not shoot anything else. Round ball accuracy at 50 yards in a modern inline.
My jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thin patched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards. The purpose of this implement is to start a tight fitting ball into the muzzle and to drive it far enough down the barrel so that it. After that, there seems to be just not enoughspin to get good enough accuracy. The wolf also features cvas qrbp quickrelease breech plug the only truly toolfree removal breech plug on the market today. You have to push that round ball pretty hard and 8090 grs is not enough in my experience if you do not put it through the shoulders and hit the spine. Round balls exhibit excellent characteristics of shocking effect, expansion and accuracy. I have a cva wolf with the 128 twist barrel in which i shoot.
So 50 grains of 2f powder is a great starting point. But, as devastating as the hit appears, none of the backstrap was lost to blood shot. Using your ramrod with a cleaning jag attached, work the patch in everlengthening strokes to the bottom of the barrel. My cva wolf is a muzzleloading inline with a 1 in 28 twist. Handgun archery muzzleloader and have been planning to use a handgun.
Round ball accuracy at 50 yards in a modern inline muzzleloader. Each ball has a tiny flat, where the sprue was removed. For elk size game, the rule is 1,000 foot pounds of energy for effective harvest. I expect better groups the more i shoot and get a fee. The second ring was bore size and the third fit the lands. Now im not sure if the patch gets spun off the ball or if patch and ball just skims the rifling but either way a round ball wont shoot for squat out of a fast twist barrel unless you cut the powder down to an absolute minimum which makes it impractical for most purposes. Most inline muzzleloaders shoot patched round balls very well. In fact, this shot created less meat loss than any shot i have made when shooting on pretty much a level plane except for one big doe i head shot at 10 yards with a patched round ball rifle many years ago. I have a 50 cal cva 1 in 28 twist that does right wellalmost as good as a sabot. We load one of our precision long rifles with a patched round ball. You have to push that round ball pretty hard and 8090 grs is not enough in my experience if you. Even forgot to unload the powderprojectile until the following hunting season and it fired no problem. Best prices, expert advice, fast shipping on all muzzleloaders. My first muzzleloader deer came in ny back when only a patched round ball was legal.
Offered as dry, oiled, wonderlubed, or premium lubed on select sizes. Patched round ball gun and game the friendliest gun. If the above reality check numbers are disappointing to you, you can take some comfort by comparing them to a 177 grain. This genteel gyroscopic gem has a sectional density of. First off, the field observations of your paring modern shotgun slugs to a round ball.
In my thompson white mountain carbine i shot 80 grains of pistol pyrodex and a maxi ball. Maxiball loads specify the use of maxilub as a lubricant. The necessity of bore butter is not under emphasized on the cva wolfs and smooth non stop ramming as you might get stuck if bore is not recently cleaned with black sabot skirts. Youre limited to using a patched round ball with the brown bess, but those large bullets hit hard and have plenty of stopping power inside their effective range.
Also get some cleaner, some of the powders are very corrosive. The cva wolf rifle is our november 2016 featured muzzleloader. Was digging around my gun room and found my old muzzleloader box and in it was a brand new box of hornady round balls and a few sabot slugs. Can you put musket balls rather than sabots in a modern day. Place this flat spot on top, centered on your muzzle. Track of the wolf sells patches in different thickness. Cva wolf the firearms forum the buying, selling or. Obviously you can shoot a bare ball but accuracy and velocity will suffer as the patch serves as a. I personally just buy the sabots and have plenty of. My jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thinpatched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards. Because its a roundball, you need to use reduced charges. My wife picked me up a cva wolf, which probably work fine since i. Precision made from special tightly woven cotton, to insure uniformity.
The thompson center lubricated round ball shooting patches are designed for use on. Grains listed after projectile type represent bullet weight. Used a dry patch,round ball and 80 grains of pistol pyrodex in the lyman great plains rifle. Round balls do not retain energy well over long distances and are not flexible options for a wide variety of game and shooting conditions. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity. These prelubricated shooting patches are 100% cotton, come in uniform thickness of. Wolf blued, black stocks, with konushot 39x32 and case combo. Loading and shooting cva caplock muzzleloaders cva sidelock. Each one is different and ive yet to see one that didnt have its. Took it to the range the other day and it shot great. Ive got an old cva that my father built when i was born. Jun 26, 2014 most inline muzzleloaders shoot patched round balls very well. Thought id hedge my bets and ordered in a cva wolf. Hornady round balls are made in the most popular calibers.
S practical use of ballistic data cva sidelock rifle. Pioneer aka shockleys gold loose fffg did equally bad with 100 grains. The ones i looked at were three ring prelube and had a skirt. Each ball is perfect, no shrinkage, no sprue, no wrinkles. Marketing hype junk made for cvas alllegedly skirted 250gr by cva over pyrodex pellets 100gr or 150. It will shoot pellets and powerbelts or sabots just fine. I chose to start with patched round balls to get a feel for the rifle before i decide if i want to experiment with conical bullets. My question is this, can i shoot a sphere ball round from a modern rifled muzzleloader. Can you put musket balls rather than sabots in a modern. At 100 yards kept the group close to a 34 inch circle. I dont have any experience with the wolf, but i shoot a hornady 240 grain xtp. Connecticut valley arms makes the cva hunter rifle models. Bullet weight is one thing you might consider though. Purchased some 370 grain maxi balls and will shoot 2f black powder.
Cva blackhorn 209 breech plug ac1611bh for loose powder. I prefer blackhorn 209 but that requires a different breech plug. In my opinion, this is a patched round ball rifle, which produces far less barrel pressures. My 50 flintlock likes 80 grains of swiss 2f black powder. Thats when i remembered that you are supposed to carry a damp rag to run though the barrel between shots. Loading and shooting cva caplock muzzleloaders cva. My cheapo cva stag horn has 2 twist and it shoots prb like a dream. Press round ball with sprue or flat portion facing upward. Thompson center lubricated round ball shooting patches.
Precision shooting patches for round ball track of the wolf. My tc black diamond also shoots patched round balls very accurately. Sightin at 50 yards i sightin any muzzleloader at 50 yards, trying to impact 3 inches above the bullseye. Hand cast round balls are cast from pure soft lead. Cva hunting scope mounts and accessories for sale ebay. Thanks to the advanced primer ignition systems that form the heart of todays inline rifle designs, shooters and hunters have come to accept 2,000 fps muzzle velocities and 200yard realworld effectiveness as the new norm. Bought a cva wolf for elk muzzle loading season this year. The 100% ambidextrous stocks are available in either black or realtree edge. A properly patched round ball requires the use of a bullet starter. Below are load recommendations from cva manual32 rifle. Note that this rifle is designed for use with true black powder and the 1.
Pure lead patched round balls will meet all of these standards within limited ranges. However those 300gr sabots shoot equally well in all 4 of ours with even that older powder. Worked well, though the second ball didnt want to go in so well. If on the other hand you are referring to a patched round ball like we traditionalists shoot, your rifling is way too fast to be accurate with a round ball. Will 1 50 grain pellet kill deer out to 50 yards in a. Sep 27, 2012 terribleted senior patrol leader posts. By toby bridges, north american muzzleloader hunting muzzleloaders have certainly come a long way in a few years. Forget all holes touching about 112 4 groups at 50 yds is what you can expect. From this data, most hunters would properly assume that the maximum effective range of a patched round ball with 90 gr ffg blackpowder fired from a st.
Last time i fired patched round balls from my black diamond there was an active duty army nco at the next bench shooting an ar15 at 100 meters. That 148 grain bullet sat over the top of 60 grains of fff. Jan 14, 2018 my jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thin patched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards. For deer hunting and longer range target shooting, ive settled on a 473 gr conical over 90gr. I started out after a good cleaning, with 90 gr of ffg and ball with patch. My cva wolf is a muzzleloading inline with a 1 in 28. These are breakaction centerfire rifles and shotguns that come as heavycaliber, lightcaliber, and compact models with a 20inch barrel. Round ball loads specify tc patch material lubricated with tc no. Using the short stud of a ball starter, firmly press patched ball just into muzzle. While i have never tried it, i am sure that load will be more than enough at that distance. For me, round ball loads tend to shoot higher than point of aim in a revolver and lower than point of aim from a rifle. The first ring was undersize and expanded on firing.
Cva ac1431 ballbullet seater black powdermuzzleloaders. The wolf is our most affordable breakaction muzzleloader, but its still packed with features that only cva can offer at its price. You will have to find a good working load for your particular rifle. Constant thickness, weave, diameter, weight and thread count help eliminate these variables from your shooting. Aug 18, 2010 you can but you wont get the same accuracy as you will in a rifle with the 1 turn in 66 inches rifling optimized for round balls. Cva accura v2 muzzleloading rifle with konuspro 310x 44mm scope 50. Just dont expect fantastic accuracy since it was made to be a bullet thrower 1. Tight patch and ball combination allows for higher velocity. The 100% ambidextrous stock are realtree xtra green.
Apr 18, 2019 50 cal muzzleloader with a round ball, is this a good choice for white tailed deer. When i went to load the rifle i found the patched bullet to be an extremely tight fit. A round ball doesnt touch the rifling itself, the patch does. North amrican muzzleloader hunting packs one of the budget priced cva wolf.
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